The National Midnight Star #181

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 02/28/91 - The National Midnight Star #181
** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** The National Midnight Star, Number 181 Thursday, 28 February 1991 Today's Topics: Administrivia Geddy's voice Master Alex bad RUSH lines Ricketty-Backers and Moving Pictures (none) Cygnus X-1: Does anyone know why Neil hates it? On P/G songs New Order (none) Comprehensive list of acronyms Basses, guitars, opening acts The funniest thing I've EVER heard! Stuff Rush phases (none) Neil slowing down??, Caress of Steel album cover Fear sentimental(ese)? ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Editor, The National Midnight Star <rush-mgr> Subject: Administrivia Ok, since people still post 'unsubscribe' mail to the digest address instead of the regular address, I'll no longer delete them from there, or accept them as such. They'll just go out with the regular digest, and the poster won't look so swift. I'm a little peeved, since I regularly mention to check the addresses - they're at the end of EVERY ISSUE. There's no excuse for not sending to the correct address. If you want to be removed from circulation, please send mail to the administrative address! I hate to sound like a heavy, but we're all reasonably intelligent, right? rush-mgr ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 91 13:59:34 EST From: Robyn Landers <rblander@watmath.waterloo.edu> Subject: Geddy's voice In TNMS #180, someone writes... >He is very >adept at evoking emotion and passion with his voice, and at least he >consistently hits the notes both in the studio and live (which can't >be said of every professional rock vocalist :-). I missed the Presto tour, but I distinctly remember that when I saw the HYF and previous tour or two, Geddy definitely modified the melody of the old songs to suit his lower range. I don't begrudge him that. Another observation is that it took several songs before he warmed up. His vocals were very wavering, tentative, often off-pitch, for the first three or four songs. Hard to believe this is the fault of the monitors or sound system in general -- they would have detected and fixed that in soundcheck. (Maybe he was a bit under the weather?) Anyone else notice this slow warm-up? A couple of amusing anecdotes: 1. A friend of mine is a Rick-playing Geddy fanatic who works at a photography studio that does catalog photos. Among various inside jokes, he did a shot of children's numbered playing tiles which of course were arranged to read "2 1 1 2". 2. I noticed in a birth announcement newspaper column a while back that some couple named their son Geddy Lee. That's dedication :-) [ If we ever have a son, it's a good chance his name will be "Alexander Neil"! :rush-mgr ] Robyn rblanders@watmath.waterloo.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Patrick M. Ryan <pat@iris1.gsfc.nasa.gov> Subject: Master Alex Date: Wed, 27 Feb 91 14:11:54 EST I've got a question about the truth of an account which I heard quite a while ago: Someone told me that in the world of classical guitar, there are, at any one time, a fixed number of 'Masters' (when one dies, a new one is appointed) and that Alex is one of them. Knowing that Alex isn't classically trained (though you'd never know it), I'm skeptical. Can anyone shed any light on this or is it just urban folklore? { Aside from the Alex question, are there any classical guitarists out there who can tell me if there really is a group of 'Masters' and who they are? } rq: "He's got a date with fate in a black sedan." thanks, pat -- patrick ryan oceans and ice branch nasa / stx / goddard space flight center pat@iris1.gsfc.nasa.gov / zmpmr@charney.gsfc.nasa.gov ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 91 11:39:03 PST From: djabson@UCSD.EDU (The God of Balance) Subject: bad RUSH lines I know some, perhaps most, of you out there believe that everything RUSH has ever written is perfect. What I am wondering is if there are certain lines (or even songs, or albums, whatever) that RUSH has written that you absolutely do not like at all. The reason I am bringing this up is just that I was listening to Signals yesterday and there is one line in "Countdown" that just grates on my nerves. It's the line "Excitement so thick -- you could cut it with a knife". From the first time I heard this song, long before I became a hard core RUSH fan, I thought this line was just to cliche for any band to put into a song. Now that I have been listening to RUSH for a while I feel even more shocked that they of all groups would do this. Maybe it's just a personal thing but whenever I hear it I think of really cheesy novels (i.e. "The tension in the room was so thick you could cut it with a knife"). Anyway, are there any others out there you don't like? Dave ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 91 14:07:31 EST From: Dave <GCPURNEL%ECUVM1.BITNET@ncsuvm.ncsu.edu> Subject: Ricketty-Backers and Moving Pictures A few issues ago Rob asked if anybody else wished that Geddy would start using his Rickenbacker in concert again. Personally, I like to hear the older songs played on the Wal. I think it's interesting to hear the old material with Geddy's new bass tone. The Wal seems brighter and more percussive (funkier I guess) than the Rickenbacker did on the previous studio albums. I like the Rick sound too. Ricketty-Backer wasn't a snub of the instrument (I own one myself). I love that growly, deep sound on the live version of Freewill, right before the solo. However, I find that the bass on the earlier albums isn't as toppy and well defined as I'd like it in some places. This is why I like hearing the Wal on A Show of Hands. Closer to the Heart really sounds different with the Wal sound than it did on A Farewell to Kings or even Exit Stage Left. I'd personally love to hear Freewill and the middle section of Bypass and the Road Hog with the Wal. On the subject of bass sounds on Moving Pictures, I was always of the opinion that most if not all of the album was Jazz bass. The tone is completely different (to my ears) from Permanent Waves. Maybe the heavy chorusing has something to do with it. When I got Moving Pictures around 1982, and before I knew anything about guitars, I thought that the bass solos in YYZ were guitar parts. The chorusing and the buzzy bright tone made it sound like a guitar to me. In closing, if I had to pick a favorite bass tone from all the albums I'd pick Moving Pictures. Anyone want to start a new poll? Dave p.u.s. - A while ago someone was wondering about the spelling of Rickenbacker. When the company first started it was spelled Rickenbacher but later changed to the present spelling. ---------------------------------------------------------- From: dave.bbs@shark.cs.fau.edu (David Edward Weiss) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 91 15:50:52 EST Subject: Signals tour X-word puzzle as one of the proud owners of this program, i can figure out a way to post it in code of sorts: my idea: use letters to represent the grid, say "B" for blank and "X" for a filled square. i could then list the clues underneath. then anyone with graph paper could reconstruct the puzzle. how does this sound????? [ I'd hold off on this for now - there are several people on the list who can digitize the image. If you want to type in the clues in an ASCII file, we could use that. :rush-mgr ] also: net.trivia -- at the end of 2112 Overture, listen to Alex's guitar and hear the 1812 Overture, also check out the clock time on the HYF inside picture (hint: think in 24-hour time) keyword: 2112. IMHO, the ending to 2112 is NOT depressing, and i feel that the triumph of good over evil is a positive thought. it shows hope. dangerous dave (new to the list, old to the music) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ObQuote: "Tits always look better in a pink sweater." -- George Carlin weissd@tuna.cs.fau.edu (UNIX site, Gary Moore fan club address) dave.bbs.@shark.cs.fau.edu (discrete, confidential, and worth the price) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 91 15:48:25 -0500 From: osa@unhd.unh.edu (Oktay S. Ahiska) Subject: Cygnus X-1: Does anyone know why Neil hates it? Hi everyone... Apologies if this has been brought up before (it wasn't in FAQL), but could anyone tell me why Neil hates Cygnus X-1? Where did I hear this? Well, someone told me, so it might not be true. BTW, as far as I know, YYZ lost the Grammy to _Voices Inside My Head_ by The Police. PS: Am I the only one without a quote from Rush in his/her .sig? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Oktay Ahiska \ The opinions expressed above (if any!) are mine. | | osa@unhd.unh.edu \ Not UNH's. What belongs to me, belongs to me! | | O_AHISKA@unhh.unh.edu \--------------------------------------------------| |------------------------\ "Give peace a chance" | | Babcock Hall, bx 2019 \ "All you need is love" John Lennon | | Durham, NH 03824 \ "All I need is a miracle" Mike Rutherford | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 91 16:00:28 EST From: ALDSTF10%OUACCVMB.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU Subject: On P/G songs Date: 27 February 1991, 15:53:31 EST From: ALDSTF10 at OUACCVMB To: RUSH@SYRINX.UMD.EDU at EDU On the subject of Song interpretations/theme discussions that have been floatin g around on NMS lately (specifically about Signals), I would like to ask a coup le o' questions: (These being,however, about the P/G album) 1) Is'afterimage'an elegy for Max Webster? If not, for whom? That song kills me everytime, its one of the most touching dedications since Mozart's requiem (no t that I was around when that came out) 2) Does anyone out there think that Red Lenses is about Nuclear Warfare (I.e. t hermonuclear attack) - I think that if the atmosphere gets saturated w. low wav elength radiation - i.e. the Infrared associated with the heat output of a TMbo mb you would see red. Or am I totally misinterpreting this tune? I'd love to h ear some interpretations of the song, because it was the first Rush tune I hear d and still is one of my faves. On a slightly different note, here's a tip on how to get relatively new Rush fa ns (or slightly younger ones) even more into the group - explain the concept be hind Anagram For Mongo (i.e. the wordplay; you did notice the wordplay didn't y ou?) to them. It is surprising how many casual fans/listeners miss the connecti on between the title and lyrix completely! All for now, S.Misra (Aldstf10@ouaccvmb.bitnet) ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: New Order Date: Wed, 27 Feb 91 13:28:26 PST From: Dan Dickerman GSY 1-447-4425 <dickermn@hpcugsya.cup.hp.com> > Greetings - does anyone think George Bush might have been listening > to 'New World Man' when he envisioned his policy of a 'new world > order'? :) Or maybe HE is the new world man...just curious...:) > > Savvy Doubtful. "You guys are so un-hip it's a wonder you bones don't fall off" The phrase "[New] World Order" has been around at least since the time Hitler used it to refer to the Third Reich. Sort of a bad choice, IMO. -- Dan Dickerman dickermn@cup.hp.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 91 15:49:09 MST From: tomd@Solbourne.COM (Tom Diessner) I also tend to agree with Rob Neely that the old rick is hard to beat. Geddy gets such a crunchy sound out of it. I was pretty disappointed when he quit using a Rickenbacker. I like the sound he gets out of the Wall bass but it is still not the same. I've owned many different basses myself, but I always go back to my Rick 4003. It just has a certain feel. I read an article in bass player magazine where Geddy expressed his opinion on all the basses he has used. He has recently dusted off the old Rick and used it for a couple shows. He still claims it is really one of his favorite basses. |Thomas Diessner |Telnet: tomd@solbourne.COM | |Solbourne Computer, Inc |UUCP: !{boulder,sun}!stan!tomd | |Longmont, Colorado 80215 | tel: (303) 678-4780 | ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 91 17:27 CST From: Blue Steel <UCSKRT@ucs.UWPLATT.EDU> Subject: Comprehensive list of acronyms I got this forwarded to me from someone on the new music list. Since people have been asking lately, I thought it might be of some interest. Note that I probably should add the ORQ (obligatory Rush quote) acronym to the list. :) From: watson@HG.ULETH.CA Subject: Holy Acronyms Batman! Sender: New Music Discussion List <NMUSIC-L@NCSUVM.BITNET> I often get personal messages asking me to expand on the acronyms that I use when I post messages... so I composed a list of acronyms to avoid this state of confusion. Remember... proper acronym protocol is important when posting messages. It's also important for those of us who are too friggin lazy to type. Use and abuse them freely!! Here they are (in alphabetical order): AHO: Anyone Heard Of... ALTP: Avoid It Like The Plague BBB: Blah, Blah, Blah BFD: Big F*ckin Deal BJ: (I assume you guys know this one... ;-)) BMA: Blew Me Away BTW: By The Way CIU: Crank It Up! DAU: Donning Asbestos Underwear EMOMC: Even More Obligatory Musical Content FIOTNC: Frisbee It Off The Nearest Cliff GAALMAYS: Go Away And Leave Me Alone You Slimeball GMAW: Gave Me A Woody GSM: Good Sex Music ICF: I Can't Find... IGAGBAYCDTI: It's Got A Good Beat And You Can Dance To It IHRI: I Highly Recommend It IMHO: In My Humble Opinion IMHTTO: In My Holier Than Thou Opinion IMO: In My Opinion ISTBO: It Sucked The Big One LTIS: Listen To It Stoned MMG: Makes Me Gag MMW: Made Me Wet (female version of GMAW) MOMC: More Obligatory Musical Content NAFW: Not Another Flame War!! NFP: No Flames Please NIDPA: No! I Don't Play Accordian NKOTB: No Kissing Or Tongue Badminton OMC: Obligatory Musical Content ONNATT: Oh, No! Not Another Top Ten PMO: Piss Me Off POS: Piece Of Sh*t RCS: Real Cool Shit SJA: woj ;-) TAV: Take A Valium TBE: Their Best Ever TOS: Totally Orgasmic Shit WOM: Waste Of Money WFM: Works For Me So... did I miss any?? - Carol - ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 91 19:20 CST From: Blue Steel <UCSKRT@ucs.UWPLATT.EDU> Subject: Basses, guitars, opening acts A hearty "hey-hey!" to the list, Concerning Ged's basses, I definately agree that his Rick had the best sound, but being a bass player, I can see reasons for the change. Specifically, the Ricks tend to be heavy and not the fastest/nicest playing basses in the world. I definitely prefer playing a Steinberger to a Rick, and I expect that I would find the same thing with the Wal, although I prefer the Rick's sound over the other two. Actually, a nicely customized Fender Jazz would probably attact my favor over all three. By the way (blatant plug), for the new people/players on this list, there's a bass digest up and running. Send mail to bass-request@uwplatt.edu I also posted questions a while back, without much response, regarding Alex's switch to a more "tinny" guitar sound in recent years, going through all sorts of digital effects and what-not. I'm curious as to any opinions. I personally prefer his relatively unaffected sounds on Moving Pictures. Nice, growly distortion, great leads, etc. As a last note, when I saw Rush on the HYF tour in Milwaukee, they were supposed to have Tommy Shaw open up. For some reason, he had to cancel, so the promoting company had to get a quick substitute in. Perhaps they were the only band available, but the Rainmakers just didn't gel with the Rush audience. In fact, they got booed after their set. Probably the worst opener (even below Mr. Big) I've seen for Rush. ================================================================================ Kevin Tipple, aka Blue Steel, By-tor University of Wisconsin - Platteville Bitnet: ucskrt@uwplatt.bitnet Platteville, Wisconsin USA Internet: ucskrt@uwplatt.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "My nipples explode with delight!" - Monty Python ================================================================================ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 91 21:55:48 EST From: bigal@wpi.WPI.EDU (Nathan Charles Crowell) Subject: The funniest thing I've EVER heard! This is my first posting to the list, so I'll introduce myself. My name is Nathan (call me Nate), I've been a Rush fan since I was 10 years old (about 12 years now), and I play bass with - you guessed it - Geddy as my inspiration. I'm generally a fan of art rock a la Rush, Yes, Jethro Tull, Marillion, and ELP. I also like speed metal (like Metallica and Anthrax) and traditional metal (like Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath). The reason I decided to post is actually quite funny, and I though after some of the discussions we've had lately we could use a good laugh. Well, it seems that someone my brother knows at school has challenged him on liking Rush. This self-righteous person claims to have EVIDENCE that Rush has connections with Satanism. Apparantly, this girl's church group has pro- vided her with a book called "Satanism Is Near You," and in this book, they have a quote (no less) from Alex himself! The quote says "I am Alex Lifeson, and I am a Satanist." When I heard this, I nearly died laughing. My roomate died laughing. I told my brother to show her Neil's response to Satanism accusations. It probably won't change this girl's opinion, but at least it'll be an attempt. ORQ: "Lonely things like nights, I find, end finer with a friend." - Anagram "We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough to make us love, one another." - Jonathan Swift Nate "Big Al" Crowell ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 91 23:08 EDT From: IDBST@vms.cis.pitt.edu Subject: Stuff [ I agonized over this decision for a long time. This post was originally two messages. The first contained a Sinead joke, the first part of the second contained the punch line. This isn't a Sinead list, nor a joke list. If you want to see the joke, you can send mail to the originator. :rush-mgr ] One other request: Because I suffer the eternal lack of money syndrome (read: College Student) I was wondering if there is anyone in the Pittsburgh area (Doug or Ken?) who would be willing to copy a few Rush CD's for me: Namely 2112, A Farewell To Kings and Signals. The favor would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. If you would be willing to offer this to me, please send mail directly to me. Thanks a bunch. Ian Bjorhovde idbst@vms.cis.pitt.edu University of Pittsburgh p.s. Tomorrow I will post the results from that Superconductor Bash Poll I conducted last week . . . . . . ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Feb 91 11:42:48 +0000 From: fjd@ukc.ac.uk Subject: Rush phases I am another one of those first-time posters, so please be patient with possible naive questions. First of all, I would like to say that Rush is very popular in my home country (Mexico) but we have never been lucky enough to seen them play there. I am now studying in England, but there doesn`t seem much hope to see the boyz here before September... (sigh) On the other hand, someone mentioned the fact that Rush has been through different phases, and I certainly agree with this theory. Nevertheless, my personal apreciation of such phases is different: 1) First Phase: Metal (Strong inclinations towards Led Zeppelin) From Rush (album) to 2112 I must say that the closer you get to 2112, the less you see the LZep influence. 2) Second Phase: Progressive-high tec AFTK to MP This my personal favourite phase of Rush 3) Third Phase: "Back to basics era" Signals - HYF Rush tends to simplify its music, but still with very high quality of musical performance. I know that this appreciation is shaky, but I do feel a difference between this phase and the rest. 4) Fourth Phase: Presto- ? I think that all the controversy that Presto has caused is a resultant of the fact that it is the first album of a new phase of Rush`s work. This makes it, IMHP, the most interesting album since Signals. Once last note. Rush`s live albums are usually out in between tha start of a new phase. ATW`sAS between the first and second, ESL between the second and third, and ASOH between the third and fourth. I hope this will cause interesting comments. Thanks a lot Javier Diaz de Leon Univ. of Kent at Canterbury ---------------------------------------------------------- From: stedmant@LONEX.RADC.AF.MIL (Terrance A. Stedman) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 91 09:36:30 EST Subject: Neil slowing down??, Caress of Steel album cover In NMS #180, David Kenney says that you can't expect Neil to play at age 38 like he did at age 27. IMO, Neil is playing better than ever. Peart said himself in a Modern Drummer interview that he overplayed at times. Maybe that realization has led him to tone things down a bit adopting the "less is more" attitude. Regardless, Peart can still play "La Villa" just as good as ever. The Presto tour proved that! Also as far as age goes, the legendary Buddy Rich was getting up there and that never seemed to slow him down a bit. On another note, could anyone out there give me some insight on the cover of Caress of Steel? I'm having a bit of difficulty trying to figure the pictures on the front and back of the album out. Terry (stedmant@lonex.radc.af.mil) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Feb 91 11:58 EST From: DG8150%ALBNYVMS.BITNET@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Subject: Fear Witch Hunt- I always felt that it is about, Fear of the Unknown and man's quest to destroy what he does not understand. There are lines in the song that make me think about the Red Scare during the 50's. The Weapon- Using Fear to destroy your enemy. The enemy is so powerful that if you but once loss concentration or vigor in fighting him, he will destroy you. IE. Our treatment of the Japanesse during the WWII, Nazi Sacpgoatism of the Jews and the Gypsies. Ronald Regan and the Evil Empire. The list could go on and on. Propoganda could some it up. The Enemy Within-This one is hard, I haven't read the lyrics in a while.(I do Remember the killer bass line though) Maybe it is about the fear of lossing the Human Spirt, with all the technology we have created to make our lives so safe. By our own inovations we loss the power to be inovative. I don't know. You tell me. Dean ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Feb 1991 11:27 CST From: INDE54Q@jetson.uh.edu Subject: sentimental(ese)? I haven't read the lyrics of Superconductor, lately, therefore I don't know if the following short observation was previously discussed, intended by N.P., or other but... here goes, listening to Superconductor one hears, among others, the line: "Hits you in a soft place with sentimental ease..." (forgive me for misquotes but this is the gist (sp?) of the line). A possible play on words for this line could be "...sentimentalese..". In a sense, it may (underline may) be interpreted as a way of Portraying a way of conveying a message designed to "tug at the heart strings", if you will. Again, forgive me if this has been previously discussed or is just too painfully obvious. Daryl Santos ----------------------------------------------------------
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