The National Midnight Star #169

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 02/08/91 - The National Midnight Star #169
** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** The National Midnight Star, Number 169 Friday, 8 February 1991 Today's Topics: Opening Acts Voivod [again!] Geddy and VoiVod Zebras, Oysters, Rabbits, and Christ Warm up groups, DDD, etc. Rush as an opening act RUSH show goups... Reply to: The Pass new album release Musicians? various ramblings Re: The Pass ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Feb 91 09:09:18 -0800 From: ddelany@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Dan Delany) Subject: Opening Acts Is anybody actually keeping this information? I think that a complete list of opening acts might be too big for the FAQL, and I don't have time to keep track of this information. Maybe it could be added to the list of concerts? Jimmy? [ Good point, Dan. Jimmy? :-) :rush-mgr ] ddelany@polyslo.calpoly.edu Dan Delany "Nothing takes the taste out of peanut butter quite like unrequited love." -- Charlie Brown ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Feb 91 10:48:11 MST From: fpeabody@isis.cs.du.edu (Fred Peabody) Subject: Voivod [again!] Ok, third times a charm, eh? As I was trying to say before, Voivod's guitarist [nicknamed Piggy] is a really big RUSH fan. There, now I said it... I hope Rush gets a different producer. Presto seemed to be too commercial in many respects. The War Paint singalong finale always embarrasses me, I mean that's top 40 radio material! The bass and guitar playing were too conventional for my tastes, but the drums as usual were awesome. Especially on Scars... too bad the music wansn't that great. Enough complaining, I guess I'll just cross my fingers on the next album and hope for an instrumental/epic... [FP] ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Feb 91 13:19 EST From: DG8150%ALBNYVMS.BITNET@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Subject: Geddy and VoiVod Does any one out there have any soild info on Geddy working with VOIVOD, in regards to their(VOIVOD's) new alblum? VOIVOD is one of my favorite bands, as well as RUSH and it would be nice also to hear from some other VOIVOD fans who are out there. Later Dean ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Feb 91 13:34 EST From: CRANMER@MPS.OHIO-STATE.EDU Subject: Zebras, Oysters, Rabbits, and Christ Greetings... Mark Maxham made a comment in yestday's TNMS about what Neil "means" when he uses the noun/interjection "Christ" in The Pass. I wonder how he can be so sure in his claim. Does this mean the the person he is addressing (in the 2nd person) is Christ? Seems like one of those subjective interpretation calls to me! Does anyone know if Zebra ever _did_ open for Rush - aside of that one time when they had to cancel at the last minute? That was a band with a lot of potential. *My* favorite opener had to be Blue Oyster Cult - gotta love that green lighting for _Godzilla_!!! On the subject of Aimee Mann and the "blanked out" concert screen, it happened in the Philadelphia Spectrum, also. Did anyone else have the feeling that not as much went into the Presto stage show as in at least the previous two? Yes, the rabbits were great (alas, no playboy bunnies appeared on-stage in Philly), but the use of lasers, etc.. was a bit less than in the HYF and PoW tours. Not that I'm griping - I'd have given up all the stage effects for _Freewill_, _La Villa Strangiato_, _Xanadu_, etc... ! ! ! ! ! "We can rise and fall like empires, "Flow in and out like the tide......" - Steve Cranmer ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Feb 91 14:17 EST From: Lewis A Bernstein <V087N562@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu> Subject: Warm up groups, DDD, etc. When I saw Rush the warm up groups were: Fastway: P/G tour Glenns Falls NY Steve Morse Band: PoW tour Rochester NY ??? (I can't recall) HYF tour Buffalo, NY Voivod: Presto tour Toronto ONT, (both nights) Mr. Big: Presto tour Albany NY I also can't remember who opened for them when I saw the Signals tour, but that is just a sampling. As far as DDD sounds on the Rush compact discs, I think that Moving Pictures is DDD, and so is everything that they made after that point. To all of you audiophiles, the disc player was already making waves as early as 1983, you just couldn't get them for a reasonable price until 1985 or so (I got mine in '85) Moving Pictures was one of the first discs that I bought, and I think it was my first DDD purchase, (along with Dire Straits, Money For Nothing) There wasn't much out then....... As far as the last song being a song of things to come, the person who said that Between the Wheels was Signals like, has their albums reversed. (Between the Wheels was P/G and Signals was *before* not after P/G) I also don't think that Permenant Waves (the song) was anything like Moving Pictures, or that Countdown was anything like P/G, or that High Water was anything like Presto. However, I do think that the final songs are different from the album that they are on and in general are excellent songs. Oh Well....... enough is enough if only that field goal were another two feet to the left, the best team in the NFL would have won the super-bowl..... ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Feb 91 12:26:57 -0500 From: Jeff Wilson <jwilson%ncratl.atlantaga.ncr.com@RELAY.CS.NET> Subject: Rush as an opening act My uncle tells me this Rush story (wish he had a country place that nobody knew about!): It's 1973 or 74, and he's going to see Kiss in Atlanta. He gets downtown and while waiting in line notices the marquee advertising the concert. It's got KISS in huge neon letters, pictures of the four members in their full makeup and costumes, the band members names, etc. Under all of this, at the bottom edge of the marquee, in comparatively tiny letters, is the legend "with rush". He sees this, thinks "who is rush??", and goes into the concert, hoping that this lead-in band won't play very long so he can see his favorite band. Rush absolutely blew Kiss off the stage, and my uncle was converted! ORQ: "I can't pretend a stranger is a long-awaited friend." ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 7 Feb 91 13:57:00 CDT From: za073@zeus.unomaha.edu Subject: RUSH show goups... I think it would be great if local RUSH fans got together and went to RUSH when they came to town. All Omaha area NMS subscibers contact me at "za073@zeus.unomaha.edu" as soon as posible so I can have some idea as to numbers... BTW...when RUSH begins thier next tour, somebody please post the tour dates? Two more things (horray! from the peanut galery...) I would personaly beinterested in going to other shows in diferent areas(kansas city, etc...), and Luther, if you send me mail about wanting to go, I'll shoot you... later Karl Olson ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Feb 91 17:34:02 EST From: ROBERT_SIMMON@mts.rpi.edu Subject: Reply to: The Pass Neil's line "Christ, what have you done?" is an interjection and a noun. Neil says himself that he likes to write multiple interpretations into songs. It's the mark of a good lyricist/poet. On a completely (well, more or less) different subject I, too have often thought Moving Pictures is a great album - the next one will be better, right? "Science like nature must also be tamed - with a view towards its preservation" -rob simmon ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Feb 90 16:56:17 PST From: bgros@sensitivity.Berkeley.EDU (Bryan Gros) Subject: new album release just re-subscribed to the list. what's the latest on the new album? - Bryan Gros ---------------------------------------------------------- From: ez003211@deneb.ucdavis.edu (Tone_Deaf_Drummer@Garage.home.mus) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 91 17:43:07 -0800 Subject: Musicians? I have been reading the NMS for some time now, and as time went by I noticed a few people who noted they were musicians themselves. I am now curious to find out how many people who read the NMS and enjoy listening to Rush are bass players, drummers, and guitar players. You might call this a little poll. Send a simple message to my address below (stating that you are answering to the poll and what instrument you play). OOYoav Gershon: ygershon@ucdavis.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 8 Feb 91 03:02:17 PST From: mjahnke@UCSD.EDU (Go Protest in Iraq!) Subject: various ramblings Just some notes here from out of the blue... I remember hearing about how "La Villa" is in part based on cartoon monster music. Well now I know for sure. One night staying up watching Bugs and pals I noticed the same notes from the "Monster" part of "La Villa" - I found the same music several days later in another Warner Bros. cartoon, this time with Daffy (this one had him waiting for a Dick Tracy magazine in front of his mailbox, and as he was pacing the music was playing). So all you late nighters turn on TNT on cable and watch those Warner Bros cartoons! (How many cartoons I wonder have this music in them??) I want to say thank you to all the people who have been contributing the Rush gifs to the anonymous ftp at syrinx... they look great! (Except for Signals.. is it supposed to have the bottom part cut off?) Wall posters coming soon to a hallway around our campus! If anyone would like any of these line printer wall-sized posters and either doesn't know how to make them or can't get access to a printer I'd be willing to process them and print them and mail them out to anyone here on the list (provided you're willing to pay for postage.. paper's heavy! :) ), or even if you would just like a laser picture of one of the gifs, e-mail me for more information. Keep up the good work list.. and keep growing!! -Meg mjahnke@ucsd.edu or mjahnke@sdcc13.ucsd.edu ps. I hope that their new album contains a longer song like "The Camera Eye" or the one off Permanent Waves (sheesh it's so late I can't even remember the title! ugh!)... and a tour in fall! [ "Natural Science", Meg. :rush-mgr ] ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: The Pass Date: Fri, 08 Feb 91 10:35:27 EST From: David Arnold <davida@umd5.UMD.EDU> In The National Midnight Star #168, Kenneth Mark Maxham <max@owlnet.rice.edu> wrote: >I wonder how many people realize that when Neal writes in The Pass: > > Someone set a bad example, made surrender seem alright > the act of a noble warrior who lost the will to fight. > Christ, what have you done? > >that the word "Christ" is a noun and not an interjection. Hmm, I am highly suspicious of this statement. How do you come to the conclusion that's what he's saying? The theme of the song is about teenage suicide (they've said it, and it's pretty obvious from the video). Jesus (who was no warrier) didn't commit suicide, he was killed. On top of that, Neil doesn't subscribe to Christianity; he doesn't even believe in the Devil (from Neil's editorial on Satanism, issue #28). I think it's much more likely that Neil refers to the concept that when presented with apparently impossible situation(s), some might think it's 'noble' to hang it up and kill themselves. I personally disagree with this, and I think Neil does too, judging by the lyrics. I think it's a sad waste for somebody to kill themselves (in most cases - there are arguments for terminally ill patients), especially a young person. I know, I was an unhappy teenager (eons ago), and toyed with the idea of suicide. I'm glad now I didn't! Also, if you'll notice, the actual ordering of the lyrics is: "No hero in your tragedy No daring in your escape No salutes for your surrender Nothing noble in your fate Christ, what have you done?" This most certainly doesn't sound like Jesus' death! David Arnold Keywords: Rush, Jethro Tull, Crack the Sky, Squeeze, BOC, Neville Brothers, Peter Gabriel, Pink Floyd, Inet: davida@umd5.umd.edu Talking Heads, King Crimson, Rolling Stones, UUCP: uunet!umd5.umd.edu!davida Police, ELP, Grass Roots, Hollies, Guess Who ----------------------------------------------------------
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