The National Midnight Star #159

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 01/25/91 - The National Midnight Star #159
** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** The National Midnight Star, Number 159 Friday, 25 January 1991 Today's Topics: Random, Unprovoked, Silly Headgames Next Rush album Drum Parts ... to be found within a song. RE: New Album New Album Speculation Rand, 2112, and Lyrics Gowan ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Jan 91 13:44:30 EST From: warsaw@ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw) Subject: Random, Unprovoked, Silly Headgames About the impending new album, does anybody have any idea who is producing it? Maybe that will give us a clue as to the direction the Boyz are heading... -B orq: "Each of us, a cell of awareness, imperfect and incomplete Genetic blends, with uncertain ends, on a fortune hunt that's far too fleet." ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Jan 91 10:54 PDT From: RAGUNTON@WATER.llnl.gov Subject: Next Rush album In the National Midnight Star #158, David Arnold wrote: >If _Presto_ --> <next album> is a similar situation to _Signals_ --> _GUP_, >then the next album could be quite different. On the other hand, they >spoke of taking time off after _HYF_ (the breakup rumours, etc), and came >back with a bunch of stuff. If they had many left-overs from those sessions, >it could sound much like _Presto_. That I wouldn't mind too much. I have a friend who is good friends with Neil Peart. The latest info I got from him, and from an interview Alex Lifeson gave on Canadian TV, was that the new album will be out sometime around September, with a tour beginning in the late autumn. I do know for a fact that they are currently working on the new album at this time. Ben Ragunton _ ragunton@water.llnl.gov _ /| Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory \'o.O' Ack! Barf! Pfffttt! Livermore, California =(___)= Voice: (415)422-2461 U ---------------------------------------------------------- From: ez003211@deneb.ucdavis.edu (Slartibartfast) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 91 11:19:18 -0800 Subject: Drum Parts I have seen a few books with sheet music for some album by Rush. Although the guitar parts in most of these aren't very specific (as a friend of mine claims), the books show guitar and vocals, and so forth, but not drums. The only exception to this is in the Show of Hands book where the Rhythm Method was actually written out including notes on the drums ("KAT Sampled Instrument: Marimba" and so forth), but I can't seem to find a complete (or even partial) listing of drum parts from Rush. Can anyone help? ******* Yoav Gershon *************** * UNIX: ygershon@ucdavis.edu * * ez003211@deneb.ucdavis.edu * ************************************ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 24 Jan 91 15:00:25 EST From: Brad Armstrong <71161.1313@CompuServe.COM> Subject: ... to be found within a song. A few digests ago David Gordon commented about Depeche mode being superficial. I will admit that I don't like the up tempo treatment in a few of their songs, but mostly I find their abilities more than simply enjoyable. They have a different style in their musical expression than Rush, but don't go dismissing them as 'technocrap' without some justification. As for my justification for my opinion: there is definitely a place for hard-rocking, up tempo, synthetic dance music when dancing is what you want to do. They include meaning in their music, albeit mostly in an uncomplicated, straightforward fashion, but that may make it better communication in many circumstances (ex. "Just Can't Get Enough"). That's more than most 'pop' groups can say, and is the essence of artistic expression (communication is, that is). Besides, they are certainly communicating the industrial bent of modern society in much of their music (ex. "Pipeline", which I don't really like, but is a good example of industrial music). Perhaps it is Gordon who was being superficial in his commentary (or at least way overgeneralized)? As for the comment a few digests ago about "Broon's Bane", I have always surmised that it was called that simply because it was the only totally acoustic song they have done, and that would be a pain to fit in to the middle of a Rush concert, both logistically and stylistically for those in charge of doing so, namely Terry Brown, engineer/producer. I know their are other songs that have sections played wholly or largely on acoustic instruments, but I think that a whole song is more likely what an engineer might complain about, even merely in fun ("She's tidied up and I can't find anything!" - T. Dolby). As to it being the intro to "The Trees", that could well be. There are other examples of songs that are not right next to one another on vinyl, but have other more significant stylistic connections (i.e. "A Farewell to Kings" and "Closer to the Heart"). On 'intellectual masturbation': I commmend the respondent who can see it from the military man's point of view, but I don't find that point of view complete. After all, our abilty to go around shouting "No Blood for Oil" is part of what we are supposedly fighting for over there, and I support the demonstrators to do so (even if it is, as it seems to be, a shallow and ineffective demonstration), except when it becomes criminal behavior, like blocking entry to public places and destroying public/private property. (I'm still not sure we have justification, or even good reason, to be over there, but I do think that, given the current circumstances, it is being handled well.). This applies directly to music as well. Do you think that "Freewill's" comment on religion would be tolerated in in someplace like Providence, 18th century (I think), or England, 17th century, or even Vatican City or China, 20th century? Robert Whitehead stated that "Reason and Rationality" were put forth as a panacea in Rush's music, but I think that there is ample, obvious evidence that it is in fact a balance between the heart and the mind, not mind only, which is painted in that light therein. Witness: the title tracks from "Hemispheres" and "Permanent Waves." Enough is too much, Magician. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brad Armstrong 71161.1313@compuserve.COM The Lion's Den Rochester, NY "... everybody got to elevate from the norm." - N. Peart -------------------------------------------------------------------------$ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Jan 91 15:54:31 -0500 From: rjf@maxwell.physics.purdue.edu (Robert J. Friedman III) Subject: RE: New Album Good day, eh? All the recent speculation on the contents of the forthcoming Rush album have been quite interesting. Though I wouldn't mind at all, I severely doubt that any lengthy songs are upcoming. The longer pieces just don't fit with the newer philosophy of the Boyz about being concise in their delivery of a musical ideas. An instrumental--now that's a different story. Supposedly, "Hand Over Fist" was originally intended to be an instrumental, but Neil came up with the lyrics that "just seemed to fit." If the Boyz were planning on releasing an instrumental last time... (OH BOY, IS THIS GREAT!) My own prediction agrees with the P/G trend. I think it will prove to be very different (I hope) from _Presto_ (which BTW, I loved). Regardless, it will be a new RUSH album and that's the important thing. Expectantly waiting... -Bob Friedman "I see red..."-ORQ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Jan 91 00:18:14 GMT From: trice@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Tony R. Rice) Subject: New Album Speculation Looks like we've opened Pandora's Box here. What will the new album will sound like? Consider this: During a Rockline interview before the Presto tour, Geddy reported that he has been taking keyboard lessons saying he had been "putting it off for too long." While thick synth textures are part of Rush's sound now, we may be seeing some interesting keyboard things on the new album. Geddy is working on his keyboard chops as we speak. ____________________________________________________________________ | Tony R. Rice | Virginia Tech Department | | trice@vttcf.cc.vt.edu | of Computer Science and | | mrmidi@americaonline | Sleep Deprevation Studies | |_____________________________|______________________________________ . ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Jan 91 18:13:01 PST From: 6600mld%ucsbuxa@hub.ucsb.edu (Old Tom Bombadil) Subject: Rand, 2112, and Lyrics David Sandberg <dts@quad.sialis.com> writes: >I'm not sure I buy that, but irregardless you might keep in mind that >Ayn Rand would have been disgusted by 2112 too, though, as well as by >a lot of what Peart has written in recent times. Hmmm. I take it you mean that Rand wouldn't have apporoved of the suicide at the end? You are probably correct. Rand was a brilliant philosopher, but she often overlooked bits of reality at her own choosing. (For example her idea that the US shouldn't have been in WWII, and her personal difficulties with life in general.) To discount suicide in a situation such as the one in 2112 seems naive. Rand herself avoided it by having her characters in _Anthem_ run off into the jungle of freedom. I still think that Peart's lyrics have more in common with objectivism than not. And on the really big things I think they agree quite a bit. I'm interested in examples of Rush lyrics that you think Rand wouldn't have approved of. I will refrain from commenting on the other issues, since it really doesn't belong here. ORQ: "Try as the might, they cannot steal your dreams." ------------ Matthew Deter | 6600mld@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu | Taxes are not levied for UC Santa Barbara | 6600mld@ucsbuxa.bitnet | the benefit of the taxed. ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Gowan Date: Thu, 24 Jan 91 22:10:46 EST From: aburnett@ecn.purdue.edu I recently picked up "The Lost Brotherhood" by Gowan. Anyone else heard this? Alex's guitar work is nice. It is nice to hear him play out of the context of Rush. &y Burnett aburnett@ecn.purdue.edu ----------------------------------------------------------
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