The National Midnight Star #122

Errors-To: rush-request@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 12/07/90 - The National Midnight Star #122
** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** The National Midnight Star, Number 122 Friday, 7 December 1990 Today's Topics: General Administrivia We're getting famous! Odds and Ends... Toronto Music Awards- REVIEW New compilation? Rush at PSU? Album tales and Censorship Expect more from a Rush fan... Presto tour ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: General Administrivia Date: Thu, 06 Dec 90 14:15:41 EST From: RUSH Fans Digest Manager <rush-mgr> [ Sorry this turned out to be much longer than I anticipated. Please read it tho, there are a lot of important messages within. ] Hello there all, Well, it's getting to the end of another semester (for those of you who still hearken to such trends), and I figured now was as good a time as any to post some general guidelines. My first request (getting tired of it yet?) is that if you are losing your computer access for more than a couple of days over the break, I'd appreciate a note letting me know so, and I'll remove you from the list while you're gone. You'll have to send mail again later to be re-added; my memory isn't good enough to remember who to re-add and when. Secondly, I thought I'd post my 'general removal policy': -------------------- If I get bounces of 'unknown user' you will be removed in a matter of days, if not hours (this depends upon how bitchy I feel on any given day :-) ). In this case I have to assume the person lost their account, and either didn't or couldn't let me know ahead of time. If I get bounces with 'unknown host', you will be left on the list until I see several bounces in a row due to this. Hosts have a way of magically disappearing and reappearing, sometimes through problems there, sometimes through no fault of their own. If I get bounces of 'unable to deliver mail', I don't know why it's happening. I tend to let those addresses stay on for a few days to let things straighten themselves out. In a similar case (I suspect), if I get the message 'unable to deliver mail; mailbox is full', I'll leave you on the list. However, if it keeps up for several days in a row, I'll probably end up removing you from the list. If I get bounces with 'timed out with host <xxxx>' I'll keep those people on - it's not your fault, and mail tends to keep re-trying. -------------------- As for the mailing schedule of the National Midnight Star over the upcoming holidays, it will be pretty much be business as usual until Thursday, 12/20. There may or may not be a mailing on Friday, 12/22. (Depends upon if I have time before my department's Holiday Party.) I will not be at work the week(+) of 12/24-1/1, but may log on from home. Whether there will be a mailing that week will depend upon me logging on, and number of submissions. Thirdly, I'd like to remind you all to keep your posts civil - this is a discussion group, not alt.flame (or even rec.music.misc). We're all supposed to be on the same side here. I don't want discussions to devolve into bashing, please! I know it hasn't happened yet, but it came close during the religion discussions. I see the seeds of it in the 'content' comments. Both sides have a point - I'd like to see a middle ground where people post whatever they want, but we don't degenerate into a blind mass following 'our gods' totally. We know Neil despises this, anyway. Let's try to see both sides; post whatever you want, but think first if your post will contribute more to the signal or the noise. ********** There's one last important issue I'd like to address here: the nature of material posted here. Before posting, please think "is it apropriate for this forum?" What I'm referring to in particular is the list of bootlegs posted here yesterday. I wasn't thinking much and let it go through. It's occured to me (with some help from mail from readers) that bootlegs are illegal technically, and Rush can be pretty uptight about the subject. I realize there are quasi-legit people out there who sell/trade bootlegs, but this list is not the correct forum for that. In the future, please do NOT post lists of bootlegs here; we don't want to turn this into a bootleg forum, and cause the end of the list. I don't want to sound like a heavy, but I've gotta cover my arse also. { 1/2 :-) } I see no problem with *discussing* live recorded material; please feel free to disseminate information at will! I just don't want to contribute directly with an illegal activity with this list. What you do in e-mail is your own affair... This is even more important in light of the following post! ******* That's all for now! Editor, The National Midnight Star (RUSH fans mailing list) ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: We're getting famous! Date: Thu, 06 Dec 90 14:25:59 EST From: RUSH Fans Digest Manager <rush-mgr> Well, after a year of operation, the NMS is getting some wider-spread notoriety. I've been contacted by Andy Currid, who along with his brother does much of the cover artwork for "The Spirit of Rush", a fanzine which originats in the UK. He is going to do an article on our mailing list, and asked me for some background information on the list and some explanation of the management and scope of the list. I sent him the first part of the anniversary issue (with Jimmy's and my comments, comments from 'old timers', etc.), and also a short explanation of what I do to keep this list going, along with a brief summary of where the mail gets to (world wide). I just got mail today thanking me for my input, and that his article should be in the January issue of "The Spirit of Rush". I figured it would be interesting to see what he'd written, so I'm going to contact the US connection for the magazine. To quote Andy: " ... Seemingly the Spirit Of Rush is available in the States and costs $4.00 per issue. The US contact is: Ray Wawrynziak 110, Red Oak Drive Williamsville New York. 14221 U.S.A" I figured I'd pass this along to the list in general. I'm not sure about a mailing address for those not in the US, but I'll check into it. Editor, The National Midnight Star (RUSH fans mailing list) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 5 Dec 90 13:22 EDT From: "This is the Spirit of Radio." <OLIVER_T@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu> Subject: Odds and Ends... First post in a while... Been catching up on back-issues of TNMS... Odd: I agree with most that we should stop these discussions of rap, bunnies, and other non-essential things. I joined this digest to be a member of a RUSH discussion group, to learn information, get insight, have fun, etcetera, *not* to flame each other on these issues which I find uninteresting. Sorry if I flamed some of you folks out. End: Michael S Savett writes: >it mentioned that he was born 'Gary Leibovitz.' This, I believe is true. I have never heard anyting about 'Weinrib,' either. [ Ok, people, hit the resources! Check your articles, reviews, stories, etc. We should be able to figure this out... :rush-mgr ] On the same note, Broonsey writes: >could let me know where Leibovitz comes from (if someone says Poland, I'll >KILL) Don't hurt me, man, but I believe that Leibovitz *is* Polish. Sorry, dude. Another Odd: Ken Renard writes: >electronics. Imagine the studio during the recording of YYZ on Moving Pictures after the 6th take. There would be broken glass >Moving Pictures after the 6th take. There would be broken glass >all over the place without sampling. [Flamethrower out:] Sorry, Ken. No glass breaking in YYZ. The funky sound that Peart uses (and now just bangs on his cymbals to symbolize :-) is a two-by-four, or various block of wood, broken across a chair, and I don't think that this was sampled. [Flamethrower out of fuel:] However, you do make a good point that sampling can be necessary when making the tracks for a song. I agree with Neil that sampling can improve the performance of his *god-like* drumming skills (if only just a little bit). Final End: Hey, folks! Can we *not* include two hundred lines or so of another person's mailing to TNMS in our replies? It makes for tedious reading when you have already read it before and must read it again. Thanks, kids! Have a good X-Mas, and a damn fine New Year! Not to mention a fantastic New Year's Eve! :=) -Todd Oliver, Johns Hopkins University "Let the fray begin!" ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Dec 90 12:35 EST From: Shane Faulkner <V127L2QZ@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu> Subject: Toronto Music Awards- REVIEW Well, they went down last night, a very slick production, with only one major flaw which I'll get to shortly. Geddy won Best Toronto Bassist award, and was on hand to accept it. He looks exactly like his 'Presto' days. Next came the Drummer award. I thought to myself, sure, Neil will win... he won't be here though, Ged'll probably accept it for him. When they called Neil as the winner, I (and everyone else I'm sure) were stunned to see him walk up and accept. Very un-Neil-like!!! He got a lengthy standing ovation ...... he just stood there looking embarrased and smiling. Then he jokingly "withered" to the floor from the applause. He didn't say much, just Thanks to the fans, and the other Drummers who were nominated. Alex didn't win Best guitar.. that went to Jeff Healy. Rush didn't win Best Toronto band/international success... that went to Alannah Myles. (what a farce!) Later in the show, a 5 minute video retrospective was shown on the video screen of the boys. It contained a lot of semi-rare footage including AFTK video, Tom Sawyer studio video, interview from Perm Waves days, Superconductor video (which I STILL haven't seen in it;s entirety!!) It also showed the Boyz receiving the Mayor's Award from Toronto mayor (Art Egelton????), which occured last week I guess. Anyway, that's the Rush news... the main reason most people were on hand was to see the reunion of Max Webster, who haven't played in 10 years. They played 4 songs, and really sounded good.. extremely tight!! They played 'High Class in Borrowed Shoes','Toronto Tontos','Context of the Moon', and encored with 'The Party' which the crowd sang along perfectly with. After they left, the crowd went absolutely bananas, and since they didn't put the Websters on at the very END of the show, the rest of the evening was plagued by constant shouts of 'WE WANT MAX...WE WANT MAX'.... That's all... -Shane ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Dec 90 13:28:29 -0500 From: Michael S Savett <savvy@chopin.udel.edu> Subject: New compilation? In case some of you do not read rec.music.cd, there was a post today by someone who heard that since the boyz were not happy with 'Chronicles' they would be releasing their own compilation, with 'Take Off' and the unreleased 'Signals' song (Huh?), along with some other goodies. Does anyone know about this? _______________________________________________________________________ Michael Savett a.k.a. 'Savvy' Addresses:savvy@brahms.udel.edu savvy@chopin.udel.edu Obligatory Rush Quote: "So many things I think about when I look far away; things I know, things I wonder, things I'd like to say." - Neil Peart - from 'Mystic Rhythms' : POWER WINDOWS ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Dec 90 15:14 EST From: "Michael Leonard Sensor" <MLS129@PSUVM.PSU.EDU> Subject: Rush at PSU? Good day, folks... Seeing the recent posting to the NMS regarding a user's wish that Rush play at UMD, I remembered a posting I was going to put on the NMS which was in a similar vein. Ok, call me dumb, or whatever, but I think it would be *great* if somehow Rush could be persuaded to play Rec Hall at PSU next tour. I can already hear the peals of laughter from the PSUVM subscribers, but, hey, it's worth a try! Hell, if R.E.M. and Love & Rockets (not to mention Bob Dylan) can play Rec Hall so can Rush. (Granted, Rush is a bigger draw, but...) If not, well, I guess we'll have to wait for the Joseph V. Paterno Convocation Center and Personal Shrine to be built whenever the god Joepa retires/dies. I wouldn't balme Rush for not wanting to play Rec Hall... it might collapse on them. Any thoughts from the PSUVMers out there? -Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. Sensor | "He's being kept dead for a year for <MLS129@psuvm.psu.edu> | tax purposes." 249 Maple Hall | --_The Restaurant at the End PSU Altoona | of the Universe_ Altoona PA 16601-3760 | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Schiller <chris@cdc.hp.com> Subject: Album tales and Censorship Date: Thu, 6 Dec 90 13:09:14 PST How about some stories of unusual ways of getting albums? I'll start with my own (semi-lame) story. My first Rush album was All The World's a Stage which as you all know has most of 2112 on it somewhere. I played this album to death for a year or two, but I didn't get the 2112 album during that time. Near the end of my freshman year in High School (1979) I made a $20 bet with another guy on a final exam (talk about geeky things to do!). I won the bet, but he didn't pay for a few months, and I was going to move to the west coast that summer. Somehow I needed the money for one of those rare dates and I called him and asked him for the money. He said he didn't have it but would give my 2112 instead. I thought I might as well get something out of it. I rode my bike (geeky, geeky) to get it, and put it with my other albums and didn't play it until I got to the west coast. When I finally played it, I found that he had sabotaged "A Passage to Bankok" with a sharp object so that about every 5th groove it would skip. He also drew moustaches on Geddy and Alex on the sleeve. Ah well. I didn't replace 2112 until I got the CD, but at least I have the large version of the cover. I told you it would be lame... Censorship: I agree with Bob Friedman-Why can't people talk about whatever Rush related thing they want to talk about? I thought the Rush list would be immune from what I see as peer censorship. Everyone is different, everyone has something to add. If you don't like to read about something, then skip it. Yes, this is a flame. It's just like TV, noone is forcing you to read every last post. Let people talk about sampling for a while if they want to, or bunnies or how often Geddy cleans his toenails. Just because you don't find it interesting doesn't mean others will not. By saying "Please stop talking about this subject" you are discouraging prospective posters. You are through peer pressure restricting the free expression of others. You are as bad as the preechers who through pressure and guilt try to control the lives of others. Who appointed you the Priests of the Temples of Syrinx? Don't any of you listen to the words in the music? Don't you want to hear what the 400+ members of the list have to say? Maybe the List Manager should post a list of acceptable topics and the permissable length of time each can be discussed. There are a lot of interesting people out there, I for one would like to listen to them. I'm both disappointed and disturbed. "I'm not giving in to security under pressure" -Another extremely relevant Rush Quote Chris Schiller chris@cdc.hp.com ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Dec 90 15:39 CDT From: MICHAELS@nuacc.acns.nwu.edu Subject: Expect more from a Rush fan... Howdy Rush fans! I've just been glossing over the Midnight Star during a lull in finals week here at Northwestern and had to give a Big High-Five to Ron Raderfor pointing out the need to stick to non-trivial topics like the listing of equipment presently being used by the Canadian Trio. Being a musician and electrical engineer myself (as well as true Rush fan) I have a tremendous interest in matters both acoustical and electrical. Yeah, it's o.k. to hear once in a while about Neil's haircut or some fans throwing beer bottles at Geddy's head (anyone remember that one?) but let's try and stick to the inter views and concert dates and album releases and equipment updates. By the way, I know of no such guitar transcription books which show EXACTLY what the guys are playing. I'm pretty successful at figuring chords out myself a note at a time in the case of particularly difficult passages (Broon's Bane). Anyway, thanks to Dan "Neil Peart" McDonald for introducing me to the list. Steve "Changes aren't permanent, but change is" Michaels E.E. 91 ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Dec 90 08:24 CST From: 2HMAMIMIC@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Presto tour I have a question. I have heard mentioned that Rush played "Presto" on their tour of the same name. How did they accomplish this? Did Alex switch guitars quickly, or did he just brute-force it right through with an electric rather than switch to acoustics in the proper intervals? Comment---I saw them in KC this year, and I really enjoyed. There was just one thing, however---when they played "Scars" and lowered the net in front of them to reflect the "light shapes" (for lack of a better word), I became frustrated because I couldn't easily watch Neil play his fabulous stuff. I hope all of youknow that he did that song in the studio without any overdubs, and played all (or at least most) of the snare parts with his left foot. I guess Rupert was quite amazed. ---Mark Pickerel ----------------------------------------------------------
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