The National Midnight Star #110

Errors-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Reply-To: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Sender: rush@syrinx.umd.edu Precedence: bulk From: rush@syrinx.umd.edu To: rush_mailing_list Subject: 11/27/90 - The National Midnight Star #110
** ____ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ** ** / /_/ /_ /\ / /__/ / / / / /\ / /__/ / ** ** / / / /__ / \/ / / / / /__/ / \/ / / /___ ** ** ** ** __ ___ ____ ** ** /\ /\ / / \ /\ / / / _ /__/ / ** ** / \/ \ / /___/ / \/ / /___/ / / / ** ** ** ** ____ ____ ___ ___ ** ** /__ / /__/ /__/ ** ** ____/ / / / / \ ** The National Midnight Star, Number 110 Tuesday, 27 November 1990 Today's Topics: Giant Bunnies? Chronicles video RUSH whereabouts pentacles and pentagrams Triggered vocals and _The Body Electric_ Chronicles video reviews, interviews, etc. Chronicles laserdisc... Thievery of music (aka sampling) A few observations on live performances. 'favorite' polls, rap sampling, symbolism, and backmasking ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Nov 90 13:40:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark R. Stemm" <msaj+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Giant Bunnies? I'm just wondering if for any other(than Omaha) shows, two Giant(15' or so) Bunnies dropped from the lights during the Presto part of the show and started "dancing" with the help of some of the roadies? Or was this a freak occurence? We didn't get the roadies in bunny costumes--Mr Big came onstage during In The Mood. There was this cute little guitar duel between Alex and the guitar player(I forgot his name--again). You figure out who got more applause. As far as covers go; Primus plays the opening minute of YYZ on one of their songs--I believe it's a live track. It was a shame though--I thought it was some rare live stuff for a minute! On last thing; Has anyone heard of a single that Rush put out between HYF and Presto? I heard about it from a quasi- reliable source this weekend. Or how about a "Rush Through Time" picture disc. For that matter, what Picture Disc's are available? I only know of Hemispheres and HYF(the juggling guy.) -Mark Stemm "I don't like to brag, and I don't like to boast, but I do like butter on my breakfast toast." -RHCP Q: So..what type of music do you play? Perry Farell(Jane's Addiction)--Well, umm, it's like a cross between Duke Ellington and uhh... Bad Brains ---------------------------------------------------------- From: chainsaw@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (David Laurenc Gordon) Subject: Chronicles video Date: Mon, 26 Nov 90 15:06:03 EST Just thought any NYCers would like to know, I live in Greenwich Vilage and when I came home for Thanksgiving vacation, I was able to pick up the Chronicles video for $18.34 (includes tax). That's the best I've heard so far anywhere in the area. By the way, that pathetic excuse for a music store didn't have any RUSH albums past AFtK. I was looking to pick up Power Windows, and they didn't have any. -Dave (too tired to do the chainsaw logo) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: chainsaw@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (David Laurenc Gordon) Subject: RUSH whereabouts Date: Mon, 26 Nov 90 15:24:14 EST I saw a question about where the boyz are now. Well, I heard a rumor that Neil and Alex are on a rock-climbing tour of Utah (they brought the instruments, of course), and I could have sworn that I saw Geddy working in Pizzera Uno on Fifth Avenue. Anyone else hear anything? -Dave "But this one goes up to eleven."--Spinal Tap P.S. After watching the Chronicles video, I was semi-upset that half of it was concert video. Also, someone commented that the Time Stand Still video was "someone going crazy with a blue screen." I said that this was done to emphasize that nothing in the video would "stand still". Any other interpretations of the song/video? ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Nov 90 17:58:18 est From: jmhaas@balance.cs.mtu.edu (Jeff Haas) Subject: pentacles and pentagrams Just a quick little posting.. As far as the difference between a regular pentacle and an inverted one (achieved by rotating a normal one just a *few* degrees), here's the classical reason for the change in significance. The regular pentacle supposedly represents the four elemental forces supporting and being the foundation for the spirit, making the spirit the more important of things. The inverted ones make the material more important than the spirit. Sorry for the tangent, just a few ramblings... | Elezar, last Wizard of Xandurae | "Hearken to me ye present and ye past, | | Dekhion, keeper of the Three | Know ye the future need not be last." | | Bitnet: JMHAAS@MTUS5 Internet: JMHAAS@MTUS5.BITNET | "Fiat Lux, Stop." | | Sequents: jmhaas@balance.cs.mtu.edu ; jmhaas@symmetry.cs.mtu.edu | ---------------------------------------------------------- From: ez003211@deneb.ucdavis.edu (Slarty Bartfast) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 90 15:07:12 -0800 Subject: Triggered vocals and _The Body Electric_ I admit I have not kept up to date on the Midnight Star, but I've read the discussion you've had about the pedals that Alex uses. If you have the _Chronicles_ video, you will see that in some of the songs recorded live, Alex uses the pedals. You will also notice that when he does, no vocals are triggered. In fact, what is triggered, is background bass chords and various effects. I think this should settle the argument completely. I did enjoy the video extremely. Seeing the three in their earliest recordings (Closer to the Heart, and The Trees) was somewhat amusing (Hair, cloths, and all). You've probably already noted about this, but the song _The Body Electric_ is based on G.Lucas's first film: THX-1138. In fact, the video for the song uses clips from the movie. It is possible that this is not the name of the song, as the tape I have (_Grace Under Pressure_) is printed incorrectly (t e names are in the wrong order). So, the "1001001" is directly from the movie, and that is why it is in the song. Yoav Gershon ygershon@deneb.ucdavis.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Nov 90 12:35:55 MST From: rcarlson%turner.intel.com@RELAY.CS.NET Subject: Chronicles video Hi- I just purchased the Chronicles video at Tower records for $16.99. The audio quality is fairly poor. I have a decent 4-head hi-fi VCR and when I listen through my stereo system, there are several instances of strange hissing and popping sounds. I would rather have paid the usual $25-$30 for the video and have good sound quality. Even considering the poor quality, I still enjoyed Chronicles, especially the older ones - Closer to the Heart and Trees. Does anyone know the circumstances of the filming of these two? I assume that they were for some kind of promo. Later- Roy Carlson <rcarlson@cmdnfs.intel.com> Intel Corp. Chandler, AZ ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Nov 90 19:55:06 -0500 From: Michael S Savett <savvy@brahms.udel.edu> Subject: reviews, interviews, etc. Greetings (burp!) good to be back at school. To jump on the bandwagon, I am a Political Science major and a Journalism minor here at the University of Delaware, in Newark (pronounced New-ark, not Newerk (NJ)) Pretty cool interview with Mr. Lifeson last week...good to hear about the next album! BTW, was the awards ceremony broadcast on TV at all (MuchMusic,MTV,local cable?) If so, I wouls be interested in obtaininbg a copy. Please e-mail me with info! Browsing through the local newsstand, the latest copy of 'Q,' the British music magazine gave the 'Chronicles' CD three stars out of five (or four) I'm not sure. Also, the year-end 'Rolling Stone' issue has an column about boxed sets and compilations, and mentions 'Chronicles' as one of the better greatest hits albums to be recently released. If anyone else has a 'brush with Rush' experience to share, please do so. I think it's neat to hear these types of stories. Requested the new Noteworthy Music CD catalog today...most Rush discs are sold for $8.94 (w/o shipping) Good deal...just in time for the holiday season. That should cover it for now... Michael savvy@brahms.udel.edu ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Nov 90 20:31:56 -0500 From: Michael S Savett <savvy@brahms.udel.edu> Subject: Chronicles laserdisc... Yep, I've seen ads for Tower Records that advertise Chronicles LaserDisc for about $25.00 (no, NOT the CD, but the music video compilation) As for whether you can find it, oh well. Also, I recall Neil saying (I think it was in a Backstage Club newsletter) that although his is a admirer of John Dos Passos' work, his lyrics to Big Money and the other-one-which-I-can't -remember-right-now-song have NOTHING to do with the novels. savvy ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Nov 90 22:08 EST From: "Michael L. Sensor" <MLS129@PSUVM.PSU.EDU> Subject: Thievery of music (aka sampling) I'm shocked (ZAP) to hear about the supposed rap version of "Tom Sawyer." Some people may have no objection to it, but I personally find it foolish and usually stupid: look at "Ice Ice Baby". Tell me that's not a *poor* tune. IMHO, sampling of music in most forms degrades the purpose of music itself: to _create_ an art form. (Granted, you might not agree with me on my defin- ition of its purpose, but oh well.) Sampling merely takes someone else's work and makes it into something that is (ostensibly) yours. As an objectivist I find this reprehensible. No one should have to stoop to this level. Well, folks, there's some food for thought. Toss that around for a while. -Mike Michael L. Sensor <MLS129@PSUVM.psu.edu> Penn State Altoona Campus Altoona PA 16601-3760 "Land of Boredom" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "No man should live for the work of others." -Howard Roark in _The Fountainhead_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 26 Nov 90 22:25:00 EST From: "Mike Andrews" <kramer@wittenberg.edu> Subject: A few observations on live performances. Hello fellow Rush-heads.. just a few thoughts that came to mind about live performances: First, has anyone else noticed on the "A Show Of Hands" video that during the Overture to 2112, Alex's guitar has the miraculous ability to change colors from black to white at different camera angles? :-) :-) I just noticed that while watching it the other day and thought it was kinda funny.. Probably has something to do with him breaking a string on his white Signature during Tom Sawyer, switching to a black one for 2112, and the film editors mixing footage from two or more consecutive performances, so some shots were of the night he broke a string and some were of a night he didn't and kept using the white one. Anyway.. something else, concerning live versions of "In The Mood".. during the chorus, has anyone noticed that during each tour they change it a bit? The part that goes "Hey baby, it's a quarter to eight".. on ESL it's "Hey cookie..." and on p/g and ASOH it's something else (can't quite make it out) and I was listening for what they'd say when I saw them on the Presto tour and couldn't understand it then but my friend said it was "hey woman..." Anyone know what word they've used on what tours, just out of odd curiosity? Can't wait for the new album.. February or June? I've heard both, anyone know for sure? (hopefully February, but if they are just in the WRITING stages right now, it'll probably be June.. sigh) Mike Andrews - kramer@wittenberg.edu - kramer@wittenbg.bitnet P.S. oh yeah, just thought of something else: those of you talking about the Family Channel satanism thing - "Anthem" isn't on ANY Rush videotape. There isn't much old stuff on the p/g video, and I really can't imagine what they'd possibly pick out as satanic (well, the whole idea is a laugh to begin with but that's beside the point).. maybe they should have looked at "Witch Hunt" a bit - it sounds like they are the kind of people perhaps that Neil was talking about in that song, ya know? ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 Nov 90 00:23:23 EST From: vanth!jms@rutgers.edu (Jim Shaffer) Subject: 'favorite' polls, rap sampling, symbolism, and backmasking >From: Editor, The National Midnight Star > >Also, I've received a request from William MacDonald <USERGJ6G@mts.rpi.edu> >about a low response to the album poll. The deadline is this Friday (11/30), I don't mean to be insulting to anyone, but I HATE being asked to name my favorite <anything>. My favorite band is Rush -- I have no question about that -- but if asked to name my 3 most favorite bands I have trouble deciding between Yes, Jethro Tull, Kansas, Styx, R.E.M., etc. If you ask me to name my favorite album or albums by any of these groups, I just can't do it. I could maybe name my *least* favorite, but that would leave the majority as favorites... [MANAGER: feel free to lose anything after here if I'm taking too much space] [ It's your dime ... :rush-mgr ] >From: atz@clmqt.marquette.Mi.US (dweezilbub) > >The day, no wait... The MOMENT I hear Tom Sawyer in RAP version, I >will cry! I like RAP somewhat, just like all other forms of >music, but I keep hearing it over and over in my head So far I've restrained myself from singing the original lyrics to any of these rap rip-offs out loud in public when I hear them. If or when I hear anything ripping off Tom Sawyer, this may change! >From: Patrick.Quairoli@cyber.widener.edu > >the pentagram is not a true symbol of witchcraft, infact it is believed by >many to be an original symbol of life, the pentagram was not adopted by the >christians (in fact i don't know that they ever used it.). in its original >form the pentagram is a symbol for life because it is in fact the human body. >picture a man (sorry girls)... picture a *person* standing with legs open and >arms extended there you have the PENTAGRAM! > >....now an inverted pentagram is another story.......... For what it's worth, I've heard the same story about the origin of the pentagram. I've also heard that an inverted pentagram is a Satanic symbol because it resembles the head of a goat. But I don't know whether it's true. The story I believe in is that the five points stand for the four elements (Earth, Air, Fire, and Water) and Spirit. Thus a pentagram is a symbol of *anything* magickal. Witches, of course, practice white magick (not black) and don't even believe in Satan. As for backwards masking, the human mind will definitely create signal out of noise. It works for light as well as sound -- for example, if you want to see JFK getting shot by his driver in the Zapruder film, you will! (Yes, this is an actual conspiracy theory; and no, I don't believe it for a second.) Incidentally, sometimes I find that the more I listen to an alleged backwards recording, the *less* I can hear the alleged words. I can barely hear anything in "Another One Bites The Dust" anymore. It just starts to sound like random syllables -- which is what it is. -- paper : James Shaffer Jr., 37 Brook Street, Montgomery, PA 17752 uucp : uunet!cbmvax!amix!vanth!jms (or) rutgers!cbmvax!amix!vanth!jms domain: jms%vanth@amix.commodore.com CompuServe: 72750,2335 quote : ATTENTION ALL PLANETS OF THE SOLAR FEDERATION: WE HAVE ASSUMED CONTROL ----------------------------------------------------------
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