The National Midnight Star #27

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RUSH Fans Digest, Number 27 Thursday, 9 August 1990 Today's Topics: The Warner Megolith, and the band you love... temples of the syrinx bootleg Song credits, musicians, and a horse Recording Problems With Grace Under Pressure Rocinante et Religion (none) ... to be found within a song. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Aug 90 11:21 EDT From: "Derek D. Lichter [MacLover] `I'm lookin thru Subject: The Warner Megolith, and the band you love... Just a quick note on a comment Brad made yesterday. Time/Warner is now a HUGE company, a virtual monopoly of the communications industry, and they do in fact own Rush's contract -- at least, they own Atlantic records. However I would assume that the boyz have as much creative freedom as they want in their contract with Atlantic (if not, why move from Mercury/Polygram?). But this doesn't explain why I've only seen one Rush video on MTV (that for Big Money) and nothing from the Presto release. Oh, I know they've been played, but I've never seen one. :-( Is Time/Warner on the way to an AT&T-style breakup? Hmmm... Derek L. ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Aug 90 12:50:36 EDT From: DSK@IBM.COM Subject: temples of the syrinx bootleg I have the Temples of the Syrinx bootleg on album and it is only one album(2 sides). It is a very good quality bootleg. Is there really a 2 album version of it around? doug ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Aug 90 10:32:01 PDT From: spike@d31mf0.Stanford.EDU (John T. Fourkas) Subject: Song credits, musicians, and a horse Straight form the mouth of Rush Complete: Song Words by Anthem Geddy, Alex, and Neil Best I Can Geddy Fly By Night Geddy and Neil Bytor Geddy, Alex, and Neil Making Memories Geddy, Alex, and Neil Rivendell Geddy and Neil In the End Geddy and Alex Bastille Day Geddy, Alex, and Neil I Think I'm Going Bald Geddy, Alex, and Neil Lakeside Park Geddy, Alex, and Neil The Necromancer Geddy, Alex, and Neil The Fountain of Lamneth Gedyy, Alex, and Neil (no Alex on Panacea or Bacchus Plateau) Lessons Alex Tears Geddy A Farewell to Kings Geddy, Alex, and Neil Xanadu Geddy, Alex, and Neil Cinderella Man Geddy and Alex Madrigal Geddy, Alex, and Neil Cygnus X-1 Geddy, Alex, and Neil Different Strings Geddy Chemistry Geddy, Alex, and Neil And here a caveat: all of the songs that credit all three, with the exception of Chemistry, say "Words and Music by....", which MAY only mean that all three worked on the music. What is meant is not entirely clear. On another subject, seems to me that arguments over which fabulous musician is more fabulous are kind of silly, since it's all a matter of taste at that point anyhow. And, by the way, Geddy and Jeff Berlin are great fans of each other, and Jeff Berlin dedicated a song to Rush on his second album, Pump It. And if you have a chance to check out either Berlin or Bruford, do so. You'll like them, whether or not you like them more or less than Geddy and Neil.... And finally, Rocinante, I believe, was Don Quixote's horse. ______________________________________________________ John Fourkas spike@d31mf0.stanford.edu Stanford University ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Aug 90 13:33:48 GMT-0600 From: sinistar@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeff O'Hare) Subject: Recording Problems With Grace Under Pressure Hi. I was wondering if anybody that has a copy of Grace Under Pressure on CD could check theirs out to see if they notice on the first track (Distant Early Warning) about twenty seconds into the song, there is a terrible crackling sound. I thought it was my CD player at first, because I had a really old, cheap one, and the motor on the drawer sounds like a dying cow. Anyways, I just bought a laserdisc player so I could buy all the Rush concert discs and have the CD-Quality audio, and played the Grace Under Pressure CD on it, and heard the same crackling. Then, I took the disc to a stereo store, and played it on a ~$7,000 system, and still heard it. So, it IS there. I don't have the disc handy; it's in the car, but if someone else has the same problem, we can compare pressings. Another strange thing about it is that it was recorded AAD, unlike their previous few which were ADD. And what's even stranger is that they went to complete digital recording in their next album! A couple of other questions I have are: Does anyone keep an archive of this mail? Also, could someone please send me a transcript of that guy's posting about Peart seeing USENET? ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 08 Aug 90 13:32:08 EDT From: bsb2u@prime.acc.virginia.edu Subject: Rocinante et Religion I can't remember all of the associations off the top of my head, but there was a discussion of Rocinante on this list several long months back, so I'm sure someone out there will be able to fill in the holes. As best I can remember, the original Rocinante was Don Quixote's horse. The word has come to mean the vehicle used in any foolish endeavor or journey. Something has been bothering me during all this discussion of whether or not Neil had religious intentions in _The_Pass_. When did this list accept the equation "Religion = Christianity"? I'm sure that everyone out there doesn't feel this way (I knoe I don't), but that's the impression that a few posters have created in the discussions of the last week or two. A rejection of Christianity is not tantamount to a complete rejection of religion in general. There's quite a bit more out there to choose from! My own interpretation is still that the song has no particular religious significance, but I'll concede the possibility. Then there's _Freewill_. My interpretation of this song is that it advocates thinking for yourself, not one religion over another. Lines like: "YOU can choose....I will choose a path that's clear...." seem to me to be saying, "I have made my choice, but you must make your own, FOR YOUR OWN REASONS." You cannot simply accept someone else's conclusions about anything as important as this, you must think it through carefully and decide what kind of world view makes sense. You can be a follower of any religion and still consider yourself a free thinker as long as you made a conscious decision to accept that religion. This message is not inherently anti-Christion unless you believe that no thinking person could accept Christianity (I would disagree). Even if you think the song advocates Atheism/Agnosticism, this is still in some sense "religion." ("If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice....") Anyway that's my two-cents-worth. brian bevins bsb2u@prime.acc.virginia.edu "With acknowledgement to the genius of Ayn Rand." -ORQ $^) ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Aug 90 14:45 EST From: "I'll see you on the Dark Side of the Moon." <ORION%WSU.BITNET@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU> Greetings RUSHan -- Andy Bates asked in the August 8th issue: Andy>I've always wondered: what is the "Rocinante" from Cygnus X-1? In Cervantes' book, _Don Quijote_, Don Quijote's horse is named Rocinante. Now, 'Rocinante',translated inot English means something on the lines on 'nag', etc. You see, Don Quijote's horse was a real old thing, not worth all that much. That could be the connection. The ship was going to a Black Hole (i.e. Cygnus X-1, an actual Black Hole in Cygnus), so by his knowledge at the time, it was not worth all that much. Always remember, no matter where you are, no matter what's going wrong... "There's a light.... Burning at the Frankenstein place" [HOLD UP LIGHTERS] [ It's nice to see another twisted mind here on the list! :rush-mgr ] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam Dickson | Nuke us if you like! Wright State University | We don't care! Dayton, Ohio | Actually, we encourage it! -=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: 8 Aug 90 19:07:54 PDT (Wednesday) Subject: ... to be found within a song. From: "Brad_Armstrong.WBST129"@Xerox.COM John Fourkas wrote: > I don't believe that Neil Peart is antireligious, as some have > suggested lately. Nor do I believe, for that matter, that songs such as > Freewill, Witch Hunt, and The Pass are antireligious. What I DO believe > is that Neil is anti-zealot and pro-self. What Neil may or may not believe only he knows. As for your interpretations, well, you are likely correct in stating that Neil is anti-zealot. As for the rest of your commentary: how can separate fatalism from Chistianity (note: I am not talking about Christian like morals, but the religion)? Fatalism is part of the definition of Christianity. I am not talking about the connotation of fatalism about not having any self-motivation. My thoughts on the Pass and Christianity are already published a few issues back. While you are probably right that Neil wouldn't agree with an 'anti-religious zealot', this does not imply that he supports or condones religion in any way either. I'm on your side about those who have been participating in the fashionable, political, flag waving. A Constitutional ammendment? *Maybe* a fire safety law, ... nah. Andy Bates asks about the origin of Rocinante, well Rocinante was Don Quixote's horse, need I say more? As for Hemispheres, I hate spoilers of movie plots and so on, so why don't we make him wait 'till he buys it? :) I will tell you this much, it's a whole album side (where have those epic songs gone, anyway?). I'd also like to repeat my request for the current address of the Backstage Club. Please mail to my net address, not the digest. Thanks. Electronic communication, making your life better; Magician. ---- Brad Armstrong Lion.Wbst129@Xerox.COM Xerox MB Lab, Webster, NY W: (716) 422-9688 ... everybody got to elevate from the norm. - N. Peart >None of these opinions has anything to do with anyone but me.< ----------------------------------------------------------
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