The National Midnight Star #16

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RUSH Fans Digest, Number 16 Tuesday, 24 July 1990 Today's Topics: Songs premiered at tours not supporting that album? Re: RUSH Fans Digest of 07/19/90 (#14) Afterimage RUSH stuff the spirit of radio Neil and Territories Album comments SO WHAT'S WRONG WITH "DEW"? Help in updating the list ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jul 90 10:25:09 -0500 From: finchum@cn.ecn.purdue.edu (Kurt Finchum) Subject: Songs premiered at tours not supporting that album? Does anyone know if Rush has ever premiered a tune during a tour that was not supporting the album on which the tune appears? In other words, what are the odds (based on past tours) that on the next tour we might hear something on Presto that wasn't played this time around? -Kurt ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jul 90 12:48:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Stephen Baier <sb38+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: RUSH Fans Digest of 07/19/90 (#14) Couple of things I'd like to add to the discussion on P/G: I'd have to say the album, unlike Signals, is an amazingly unified work, dark and emotional all the way through. For me Signals seems a bit disjointed, and although Subdivisions is one of my favorite songs (particularly because I can relate to it so easily), I get a bit bored by side B. Granted, that may be due to the below-par production quality (the tape is especially bad, CD a bit better but not up to HYF quality), but still, the songs seem to have no particular reason for the order they're in. If the album had the songs sequenced differently, I don't think _I'd_ notice any difference. Especially by the end, with "Countdown", I always ask myself "What does this have to do with the rest of the album?". And as I think I've heard, "New World Man" was thrown together at the last minute, and the boyz never planned on it being a hit (are there other songs from the past several albums that were, shall we say, extemporaneous?) On the other hand, P/G wouldn't be the same if the songs were in any other order - it seems to flow. Especially "Body Electric" as the start of side B - excellent way to start the side off. And yes, "Between the Wheels" is a quite dark and morbid song ("You know how that rabbit feels, going under the speeding wheels..." - Luckily the rabbits survived for the recent tour!) but it WORKS, and I always end the album wanting to turn it over for one more time. "Afterimage" is my favorite off the album - excellent guitar and drums - the middle part of the song seems to go on forever! Only problem I have is that the ending guitar sound on "Afterimages" is too much like the first note in "Red Sector A". I'm not sure if I like it or don't like it - sure makes for a good flow, but sometimes it seems like the songs are too similar. I think my least favorite song on the album (believe it or not) would have to be DEW - seems a bit wimpy for me until about the halfway mark. It's only good really loud, too, whereas I like other Rush songs both loud and soft. As for most favorite album - right now it's Permanent Waves. I just got the lyrics, and am going crazy over "Entre Vous" (lyrics are totally phenomenal on this song, and it all relates to life right now) and "Natural Science". BTW, heard a bootleg of the PermWaves tour once, and heard "Natural Science". Wow. Up there in power with "La Villa" on ESL. Well, enough rambling. Later 1 0 1 0 1 S O S ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Afterimage Date: Mon, 23 Jul 90 14:34:43 EDT From: David Arnold <davida@umd5.UMD.EDU> In the last Digest, Barry Warsaw mentioned the song "Afterimage". For those who aren't familiar with the subject, it was written about a close friend who had died. This is blatantly obvious when you see the video, and stirs some stong emotions in me. I had a friend die in a freak accident back in high school, and when the song first came out, it brought back memories of him. In the past year alone, I've had two close friends have 'close calls', one with Hogkins Disease, another (currently) undergoing examination & surgery for a lump in her chest. I know I couldn't think of watching the video while I wasn't sure of the outcome from my first friend (she's in remis- sion - yayyy!), and I don't *dare* watch it now, not knowing about my second friend (yet). If she dies, and I feel the need for a purging cry, I know where to turn! The song is strongly written, and even more strongly shot on video - the images are stark and really hit you, especially if you've lost a close friend. You can't help but empathize with Neil at the end, and it is strong enough imagery to bring out tears. While it's a dark (even dep- ressing, in the right/wrong circumstances) song, it's one of RUSH's most emotional as well. What can I say but "touche', fellows", and "I'm sorry" as well. Sorry, don't want to be a bummer ... Onto lighter subjects! I don't think RUSH has a 'worst' album. I think they have "the album that I'm lest likely to listen to at this point in time." My least favorite used to be COS, but I've come to appreciate it over the years. After all, it does have "Bastille Day"! I like several songs on RUSH, so it can't rank at the bottom. Since it takes me a while to get into most of their later albums, I'd have to say that either PoW (sorry, Barry) or HYF would have to be at the bottom of my list. The songs just have this tendancy to sound too much alike; the second half of the album just gets too mono- tonous sometimes... Presto has this tendancy also, but the first half of the album is pretty strong (LOVE "Chain Lightning" - pissed they didn't play it live!), so I'll keep giving it a chance. It took me a while to warm up to GUP and Sig, but I've come to appreciate what they were doing, even if I'm not a fan of the albums. "Analog Kid" *does* have the best guitar solo of any RUSH tune ... "The Enemy Within" just moves so well ... There are spots that are sooooo bright in there! Well, enough disjointed rambling, so later! David Arnold Keywords: Rush, Neville Brothers, Squeeze, Crack the Sky, Peter Gabriel, ELP, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd, Inet: davida@umd5.umd.edu Talking Heads, Arc Of Ones (RIP), Stones, BOC, UUCP: uunet!umd5.umd.edu!davida King Crimson, Police, Grass Roots, Hollies ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jul 90 18:25:14 edt From: "Dan Schwarz" <dan@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> Subject: RUSH stuff Just thought I would respond to some of these comments... >One night QFM 96 (Columbus, Oh) played an hour of Rush live >for no particular reason. Most of what they played consisted of P/G, and I >said 'Hey, this is some really good stuff, especially this one with the conc >entration camp stuff' You see, I was growing up Jewish (yes, I'm cured now) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ... I didn't know this was a disease... :-) >and having no understanding of their stuff at the time, I thought that they >were do a song about the Nazi Prison Camps. I was wrong, but hey it got me >hooked. No, my guess is that you were right. At least that's what I remember reading on here a while back... can anyone verify this? I think Geddy is Jewish by birth, and at least one parent (survived, or died?) in a concentration camp. ... discussion about the 'best' RUSH album... > But lyrically I put hands down to Presto. This is the best >example of lyric writing I have ever seen, by anyone. IMHO, stuff like "The Camera Eye", "The Trees" (in fact all of Hemispheres) and "Xanadu" beat Presto hands-down for lyrical quality. Heck, when I'm feeling cynical about the band's direction in recent years, I might even say that "I think I'm Going Bald" beats Presto in the lyrics department ;-) _dan ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jul 90 16:20:49 PDT From: antonyc%coil.caltech.edu@Tybalt.Caltech.Edu (Bill T. Cat) Subject: the spirit of radio hi. i'm new to this mailing list, and i have this question i've been wondering about for a year now. i realize that the end of the spirit of radio is a parody of simon and garfunkel, and i was wondering if neil thought this up or if it has to do with the spirit of radio in toronto (what is that anyway?), and if neil and the group really think s&g sold out. thanks antony chan ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jul 90 16:23:44 -0700 From: David Pakman <pakman@apple.com> Subject: Neil and Territories Yes, it is true, a careful listening to Territories on the studio version reveals that Neil actually over-dubbed the tuned bongo portions. He now plays that part live by moving from the 16th-note hi-hat pattern to his 6", 8", and 10" tuned toms. When the Power Windows Tour actually began I remember wondering hoe Neil would decide to do that. No big deal, really, but just another thing to be appreciative of as Rush continues to so carefully stay true to their recordings. Something we folks seem to take note of... David Pakman "I'd make everything all right..." -MP (^ woops, NP) ---------------------------------------------------------- From: telxon!teleng!dank@uunet.UU.NET (Dan Kelley) Subject: Album comments Date: Mon, 23 Jul 90 16:42:52 EDT # From: Doug Grumann <dougg@hpptc16.hp.com> # # >Triumph. Anybody else listen to them? Great stuff, super guitarist (Rik Emmett) # # Great band. I'm into their earlier stuff. Rock 'n Roll Machine and Just a # Game are incredible albums. Evidently they've broken up, huh? Yes, Triumph is a great band. I have Triumph "Classics" on CD. Great stuff. # From: Digital Man <cse2002%eve.wright.edu@RELAY.CS.NET> # [..] # I'd have to say that Rush has something for every mood. At some time or # other, I could honestly say that each of their albums has been my favorite # (including the recently maligned Rush Rush). Let's face it, the Boyz just # plain have it all, something for everyone. By the way, my current favorite # is Moving Pictures and my current favorite song is Overture/Temples of Syrinx. # Digital Man Yes, I definately think that this man hit the nail on the head by this statement. Rush does has something for every mood. I knew that some were going to agree that _Grace Under Pressure_ is not the greatest and that some were going to get bent out of shape in defending it. We already know that some people like certain albums better than others and that one cannot enforce opinions on someone else. I must agree that there are some Rush albums that have to grow on ya (as someone else mentioned). I started following The Boyz right after _Moving Pictures_ so I eagarly awaited the forth-coming albums. I must admit that when _Signals_ and _Grace Under Pressure_ were released, they had to "grow" on me. On the other hand, _Power Windows_, _Hold Your Fire_ and _Presto_ I liked right away. Now for some others, it might be something totally different (especially you new Rush listeners who haven't listened to much of the older stuff (pre-Permanent Waves)). In any case that's all I wanted to say... BTW, I don't have my _Power Windows_ tape on me off-hand but will listen to "Territories" and give some comments (be it that I have been a drummer for quite a number of years now). Dan... -- Dan Kelley <-> ...!uunet!telxon!dank <-> telxon!dank@uunet.uu.net Telxon Corporation <-> Akron, OH 44313 <-> "...sadder still to watch it die than (216) 867-3700 x3123 <-> never to have known it..." - N. Peart ---------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Jul 90 21:52:28 hst From: Hinano Akaka <bigtuna!hinano@uhccux.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu> Subject: SO WHAT'S WRONG WITH "DEW"? First off, thanx Doug for bringing up GUP! You started the Digest going again; I was beginning to wonder where everyone was... It's getting a little lonely down here...am I the only one who likes DEW? Guys! Don't do this to me...! Allright, I admit I have a sentimental affection for that song. It got worse on the Presto tour--when I saw them in Sacramento at the Arco Arena I sat on stage left (yo, Skip!) up behind the stage so got a GREAT view of Neil. And, of course, being at a Rush concert, NATURALLY I had to air-drum my way thru the concert (!). When they started playing DEW, I was watching Neil and playing along and I was right in sync with him--I felt like I was playing with the band! Man, oh man, what a rush (pun intended!)! My time sense needs some serious help (anyone got a metronome that WORKS?), so it was fun to play along with the Boyz. SO WHAT'S WRONG WITH "DISTANT EARLY WARNING"? (sob, sob) Allright, I'll shutup... About those Canadian bands, forgive me if this was already mentioned, but wasn't Steppenwolf a band from the Great White North? And just in case you wanted to go beyond rock groups, I do believe gordon Lightfoot is Canadian. Oh, wasn't Saga also from Canada? Anyway, Triumph is (was?) a great group as well. "Fly by night away from here..." Puanani Akaka ---------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Help in updating the list Date: Tue, 24 Jul 90 08:59:54 EDT From: RUSH Fans Digest Manager <rush-mgr> Hi all, This posting is aimed only at those of you who are receiving this Digest at CMU. You are on a local distribution, and I have only some of your names and mailing addresses. In the interest in keeping the membership list as current as possible, could you please send this information here to the administrative address? Thanks! Manager, RUSH Fans Digest P.S. (To all) There was no Digest on Friday, 7/20, if you were wondering. ----------------------------------------------------------
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